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+Steve Martin
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Steve Martin

2 years ago
Just a question for the character animators out there, when you guys are animating a character walking ( not a cycle but actually moving) do you animate the actualy movement of the body from the pelvis controller or the overall controller? I usually use the pelvis but I was just wondering what everone else does as there doesn't seem to be much info on it out there. Heaps of info on walk cycles but not much on actually moving a character.

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-The Real Matt
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The Real Matt

2 years ago
ALWAYS from the pelvis or root control, i only ever use the global controller to initially place the character in the shot.
and it's a story that might bore you, but you don't have to listen, because I always knew it was going to be like that.

-Tyson
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Tyson

2 years ago
I don't do a hell of a lot of full figure character animation these days but I would say that for most situations I would be trying to animate
each step, moving the pelvis forward. Usually a character needs to be doing something interesting as he goes, so doing a cycle
that loops and moving the main control forward isnt going to cut it. That said it can be a time saver in certain situations. Say if a character is running along a flat road it could make sense to make an on the spot loop and move the main control forward with a linear curve for that part of the shot. but if he needs to step, jump, spin or otherwise negotiate the terrain it would be a matter of keyframing all the poses.

+Steve Martin
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Steve Martin

2 years ago
Yeh that's pretty much what I thought. I haven't done a great deal of it either and I'm still trying to figure out a method that's both efficient and effective. It's all a bit of a dogs breakfast at the moment.
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-The Real Matt
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The Real Matt

2 years ago
if you have never seen keith langos blog/ website you should check it out. at the very least this page [Link to www.keithlango.com] will tell you a very solid animation walkthrough used by a lot of very well known animators.

basically he begins animating characters in stepped curves mode and then moves to linear and then finally to splined animation curves. read it and you'll understand.

i highly recommend this method
and it's a story that might bore you, but you don't have to listen, because I always knew it was going to be like that.

+Steve Martin
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Steve Martin

2 years ago
Thanks Matt, that looks like some good reading. I generally do start with stepped curves for the various poses, it's after that that things start getting messy. Hopefully this helps.
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-Tyson
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Tyson

2 years ago
Thats a great article, I'll give it read. I got this gnomon dvd on the subject

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Its really good, pretty much the same idea, pose to pose, stepped curves then smooth it all out in passes.

personally I prefer to work with flat tangents, sometimes basing a breakdown pose on the interpolated values.

-The Real Matt
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The Real Matt

2 years ago
if you guys are interested here are a couple of other workflows i've heard of:

copied pairs method: i'm not overly familiar with this way of working but it involves setting a pose and then copying the key for that pose several frames down the timeline and then setting the next pose. i think the idea here is not to worry about changing tangents too much but to create held poses and then break those poses down with more keys. like i said i'm not really familiar with this method.

layering method: this method involves hiding the limbs and animating the body first and then moving outward and animating the legs arm and head and finally the face.


and it's a story that might bore you, but you don't have to listen, because I always knew it was going to be like that.

+Steve Martin
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Steve Martin

2 years ago
What do you use?
[Link to www.3dprevis.com]

-The Real Matt
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The Real Matt

2 years ago
a bit of a mix of pose to pose and the above two methods, i'm a bit all over the place to be honest.
and it's a story that might bore you, but you don't have to listen, because I always knew it was going to be like that.

+Steve Martin
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Steve Martin

2 years ago
That's strangely comforting wink.gif
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