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-Tyson
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Tyson

2 years ago
Ok, so i saw Avatar yesterday and I'm happy to report it is so fucking awesome I left the cinema thinking, "right, I think I have a new favourite film of all time, Holy crap!, I never thought I would see the day that a new film could actually eclipse every other classic film in my memory" Its truly a masterpiece in almost every way. A few very slight concerns to do with the design of the Nav'i and maybe the very beginning of the film could have been a tiny bit slower to ease you into the world. but yeah, Go see it immediately!. I can't wait for a blueray version with some sort of extended cut. Right in the beginning of the leaked "scriptment" that I read around a year ago there are scenes of earth all polluted and fucked up with mega corporations running the government and you get a description of the ship that goes to the neighboring star system and how expensive it is to fuel it for such intense speeds, using the amount of energy the whole earth uses in a year just to achieve the acceleration needed for interstellar travel. All that info really helps to set the scene but its cut from the film, apparently it was shot though so it will probably be there on the special edition disc, there are some creatures missing too, like one thats like a weird panther that can shoot its head off to attack its prey, but its head is really the female or its young or something. There was also an absence of these huge flying jellyfish creatures too but really you cant blame them, there is just so much going on that anymore awesome would probably cause peoples brains to implode smile.gif


+Steve Martin
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Steve Martin

2 years ago
Sounds cool. Did you see it in 3D? The place I'm working at at the moment does a bit of stereoscopic stuff, it's gonna be bloody amazing when it's mainstream.
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-Tyson
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Tyson

2 years ago
Yeah I saw it in 3d. pretty much everywhere around here has a few theatres with 3d. What about Adelaide? You have to see this one in 3d because its probably the best example of stereoscopy you're going to find. I'm still kind of on the fence about stereoscopic 3d though. I dont really think that its the massive leap James Cameron would have you believe. I think it adds something but it also takes something away. theres something about 2d cinema that feels right, theres a language of cinema that sometimes doesnt really work for a 3d image and the huge big screen stretching up in front of you becomes much more compact in 3d. Sometimes your eyes kind of phase out of the 3d view and it almost distracts you from the film. This film was amazing in 3d but not all of them are this well done. Even in this there were shots that tried to be 2d shots, like something out of focus in the foreground that if you shift your focus a bit it looks wrong. I dunno. until its all around you with head tracking I'm not going to be squealing with joy about 3d. Avatar on the other hand, as a film in its own right did have me squealing. well in my head, I was seriously impressed. I recommend seeing it in 3d but on a smaller screen than IMAX the 3d works best as a kind of post card effect. like you are looking at a 3d picture rather than being so close that it stretches out to your periphery.

+Steve Martin
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Steve Martin

2 years ago
One of the guys I work with went to see it and said that the 3d was done pretty well. He said there were a couple of overdone bits, like things that pop out at you, but overall he was impressed. Like you, he absolutely loved the movie and came in with the soundtrack on his ipod and a Navi chick thing as his wallpaper. I had a look at the demo of the game in 3d and while it was impressive I don't think you really miss out on much by not having it.
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-SpitFire
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SpitFire

2 years ago
I saw this in 3D a couple of days ago and I thought it was awesome!!!!!!!
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+Jamie
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Jamie

2 years ago
I am seriously divided on this movie. I haven't seen it yet but I keep hearing mixed reviews. Some say it is amazing others say it is a FX movie with a sub par story.
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+VarnishedOtter
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VarnishedOtter

2 years ago
I found the story incredibly involving. And, well its weta, so it is going to be visually over the top.
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Jamie

2 years ago
I didn't know you had been to see it. I shall pick your brains.
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-Tyson
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Tyson

2 years ago
Maybe some people will say its just a pokohuntis/last of the mohicans/Dances with wolves type story which it is, and the characters are all archetypes. It is kind of generic in a broad sense but it is also very powerful. I dont think there is really anything wrong with using a good solid hero model structure for a story and in making all the characters archetypal you can relate to them better within the alien setting. I know alot of people that would tend to critise movies if they arent completely ground breaking in thier structure and only really priase films that are of the "arthouse" variety but when it comes to a massive scifi blockbuster James Cameron is the master of the genre and you really wouldnt expect anything other than a monomyth/hero's journey structure.

quote from Joseph Campbell who coined the term mono-myth

"A hero ventures forth from the world of common day into a region of supernatural wonder: fabulous forces are there encountered and a decisive victory is won: the hero comes back from this mysterious adventure with the power to bestow boons on his fellow man."

Which fits Avatar completely.

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VarnishedOtter

2 years ago
Guy: "How's your latest movie coming along?"

James Cameron: "I don't make movies... I make EPICS!"

He's all over the Professor Plumb.
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-johnbeyer
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johnbeyer

2 years ago
I've seen it aswell, and I have to say I wasn't impressed by the storyboard or story at all. A great turnoff for me. I'd expected something to be stronger, bigger, and more worked out. It's like people visit the movie for the 3D, not the story. Which is a shame Imho.


--SPOILER BELOW ---



I was greatly dissapointed by the motion and facial looks that Sully did when he was lost in his avatar in the woods. Like he knew what to do at every moment in a body he has walked in for like a day. He tears his shirt to pieces and sticks it on a stick and plunges it into some slimy thing he appearntly knows it will burn? - He even didn't know a thing about pandora, but this , he knows. yes. And he's walking around like some marine feeling comfortable. I was getting an unplaced rambo feeling which didnt belong there , lol.

And there were other parts which were very odd, for example, in the end.. One of Sully's friends, this nerdy-geeky guy is in his own avatar aswell, firing the M60, when he get's shot down by arrows and his avatar dies because he get's ejected from his avatar-link connection...in the end of the movie, everything is fine and he pops up out of nowhere..even with all the link stations destroyed...

Also, in the end shot, you can see the Shuttle being grand new out of nowhere..it crashed remember? grin.gif I thouht they only had one! because Sully somewhere says '' They'r using THE shuttle as a bomber''

--END SPOILER ---


Anyway, I did like the graphics , a hell of a job.

-Tyson
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Tyson

2 years ago
well everyone is entitled to their own honest opinion smile.gif. I have to say I didnt notice the continuity errors you mentioned. maybe they had two shuttles. or maybe it was a new shuttle that had come to pick up the humans some time later. They were hardly game breaking gaps in internal logic. I'm a scifi nut though and I will enjoy some pretty lame shows regardless so long as they have aliens and crazy technology in there, I mean Ive watched practically every sci-fi series known to man and some of them are extremely cringe worthy and in some cases embarrassingly nerdy but I love it all the same. So for me this was pretty much as good as a movie can get. Just out interest. did you enjoy District 9?

-johnbeyer
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johnbeyer

2 years ago
True that. I haven't seen D9 yet smile.gif

+VarnishedOtter
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VarnishedOtter

2 years ago
I got a very Night Elfy feel about the Na'vi and their whole culture. There were parts of the movie where I could only think, hmm thats what Teldrassil would look like if it wasnt made out of 4 polygons, haha.
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+Steve Martin
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Steve Martin

1 year ago
Yes, I'm reviving another old thread.

I finally went to see Avatar last night, the new extended version (though from what I'm told the new bits are mostly scenery shots). Visually I thought it was very impressive. The stereoscopy was very well done though the vortex bits when they go to their avatars were a bit hurty on my brain. Pandora looked pretty damn sweets, especially at night.
I didn't think the movie itself was that great though, not really worthy of a Best Picture nomination. Best Visual Effects? Absolutely. But the story is nothing new, and most of the human baddies are paper thin stereotypes. I didn't hate it or anything but I didn't think it was anything overly special.
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-Acaroid
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Acaroid

1 year ago
"I didn't think the movie itself was that great though, not really worthy of a Best Picture nomination. Best Visual Effects? Absolutely. But the story is nothing new, and most of the human baddies are paper thin stereotypes. I didn't hate it or anything but I didn't think it was anything overly special."

The main reason I have avoided that movie. I haven't seen it and wont watch it unless I see it at someone else's place or it comes on FTO TV. Yeah visuals are all well and good but 10 years down the track the movie will look out dated and without a good story line to hold it together it really isn't much IMO.
It is ok, I wouldn't talk to me either...

-Tyson
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Tyson

1 year ago
I agree that the story isnt ground breaking or original in the slightest but the movie is for several big reasons, the first film to use James camerons new performance capture techniques and a huge huge advance in realistic cg film making, and of course one of the only steroescopic films to actually make good use of the tech. I dunno. when i saw it i was blown away, loved every second of it, but now in hind sight it doesnt last in my brain like a good art film would, you dont reflect on the story and the themes like a controversial indie film from spain for example but thats not the only type of film worthy of my time. I think its a mistake to pan the film because its plot is too generic and hollywood. its absolutely worth seeing no matter how you look at it.

-Acaroid
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Acaroid

1 year ago
It doesn't need to be a good art film or indie film to have a good, long lasting story. I am not going to see a movie that every review I've read basically focuses on how good it looks. No movie is worth seeing if the visual effects take a front runner to the story and characters.
It is ok, I wouldn't talk to me either...

-Tyson
Senior Member
Tyson

1 year ago
Oh well, your missing out. I think you should see it for yourself before passing judgement.

-Acaroid
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Acaroid

1 year ago
Oh I will see the movie, what I am not going to do is waste money seeing it. Hence why I can wait for it to come out on free to air, or wait till someone else buys it. I have no real need to go out of my way to see it is my point.
It is ok, I wouldn't talk to me either...

-koxy
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koxy

1 year ago
Well, I saw this one too in a movie theater, and I can tell you, I don't go there too often. But Yeah, the main reason that this movie was that popular is that it looks absolutely fantastic. I really enjoyed watching it, but it's certainly not as good as most people said...
"Criticizing is easy, art is difficult."

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