Can you post an image with the meshsmooth modifier applied? If you don't think the corners look right go back to an earlier save with the four edges if you can. Then hit the extrude button and set the extrusion height to 0 and the base width to what ever suits it. This should have the same effect as chamfering without altering the shape of the mesh.

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nice trick!

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Yer if you do the extrude and then try a mesh smooth it should work nice one steve martin

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Here is a picture of the render and wire:

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Bear in mind, when I say corners, I mean what makes the actual hole rounder and not square. As you can see I have chamfered this hole 2 times, around the perimeter of the hole and the corners.

Everything seems fine so I assume the most important thing to look at is the final render and not the mesh? I always try and save polies where possible, but I had to have a lot of edges for these chamfered corners due to the meshsmooth modifier.

Do you think that 'mesh smooth' will make my models look more realistic or as my model consists mainly of flat polies (it's a laptop I'm making), would it be more ideal to just use a 'smooth modifier' and only smoothen the parts that need it? I don't see the point of adding extra edges to flat areas if it won't benefit from them in the final render.

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Here, if I wanted to use meshsmooth, how could I use it without the mesh messing up? I can't see how the meshflow could remain adequate with all these vertices going off all over the place! If someone could mark in the edges in paint over my picture and post it back up, that would be great. Places like in the 'x' area as shown in the picture is what I'm talking about where problematic areas are concerned where there are no edges to continue the mesh flow.

Sorry for the complicated questions guys, but I'm behind with my work because of these problems .

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Are you use booleans to cut these shapes??

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Yup, boolean rules! I know a lot of people advise not to use them, but it's the only way I can think of to get those really complex outlines.

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about 3/4 the way down, look for the green cubes.

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Yeh, booleans and meshsmooth don't go hand in hand, it takes a lot of cleaning up to get everything to act the way it should.

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+VarnishedOtter:

I think it's probably easier to just make a chamfer box from the 'extended primitives' menu.

+Steve Martin:

A lot of the modelling process consists of cleaning up whether boolean is used or not. It's a slow and boring process, but has to be done. You're right about booleans and meshsmooth not going hand in hand, but what about 'smooth'?

The following image shows an example of boolean. Meshsmooth can't be applied, but then again, do I need it? Nope . Make all the chamfers you need and the use of meshsmooth is not needed. Sorry for bad jpg quality.

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True, I guess the final product will speak for itself. If it looks good it doesn't matter if it's got 1000 polys or 100,000 polys. Just go with what looks best.

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"If you don't think the corners look right go back to an earlier save with the four edges if you can. Then hit the extrude button and set the extrusion height to 0 and the base width to what ever suits it. This should have the same effect as chamfering without altering the shape of the mesh."

Just wanted to say thanks for this info! Been using this for the past few days and works a treat. Better than using the chamfer tool with messes up the surrounding edges. This gives the same result without all the hassle .

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Glad to help I remember having that problem when I was new to 3d. In fact, I didn't even know about chamfering. Yeah, some of my turbosmoothed models didn't look too flash.

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