Some pictures would be nice, yes In Vray, you can exclude any object you want and you can choose to exclude the shadows, illumination, or both, I am not sure if this is possible on some with with MR, but I believe it would be.

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First image is without any window pane geometry. Nice background can be seen as expected. Second image is when i use a plane with a reflective and refractive material (raytrace to work with mr lighting). I want to have windows with some reflection of the room, but also to be able to see through to the background outside, but instead i get monumental glare. Any ideas?

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Hmmm..I am not sure how to solve that , My knowlegde of raytrace and Mr lighting is not enough , but I am sure others can help you out.

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hopefully. i'm continuing to model things for this scene in the meantime, finishing up the ceiling lights, making some blinds then i'll hit up some textures, cant wait for it to come together.

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I've commented on your portfolio Maybe you've missed it.,

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Cheers man. Appreciated, although that image had no glossy reflections .

Got a bunch of textures sorted, its looking reet good now. Nearly done now, just ironing out a few issues. my rug is throwing up problems in the floors reflections.

Rendering now, its taking 40 minutes a pop now. Will upload a pic before bed.

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I have experienced the same problem with mental ray. Hard time to remember what the fix was. If your windows are plain boxes (they should be boxes anyhow, not planes) with only one face / side you could try to make a box maybe 9x9x9 or something. I _think_ that solved one simililar problem I had. Dunno the reason why it happened *shrug*

Otherwise you might try adding another geometry with the same material somewhere else in the scene "off cam" that has also solved relect/refract-issues for me with mental ray in the past. Again I have no clue on why

Hope this helps.

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I'd just render a separate pass for the windows, you get more control that way.

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lol i dont know how to render separate passes for thing, but i'll dig up some info and have a bash maybe.

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yeah, I highly recommend getting into the process of compositing, it pretty much changes the way you think about every problem.

In this case I would try doing the following.

select all the objects in the room(except the window glass)>right click>object properties>uncheck visible to camera.
now with a transparent reflective material on the glass object you should get a render of just the glass
but with the room in its reflection. which you can save as a 32 bit .tga.

The other thing is that you will probably want to mask off the glass with the window frame and any geometry that comes infront of the window.
to do that in scanline the way that comes to mind would be to apply a black material to everything but the glass
and a white self illuminated material to the glass then turn off all the lights and render.

so now you will have one pass with just the glass with some reflections and an alpha channel.
and one pass that is just a white square where the glass fits with the rest black.
in photoshop put the black and white pass ontop of the glass pass and set the blending mode to multiply.
then flatten the image and copy paste the new image onto your room render with no glass in the windows.
set the blending mode to lighten or screen and adjust the opacity till it looks right.

Hope that made sense, heres a screen grab of my quick glass material in scanline. good luck. the image is looking good.

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This aint a solution, just a stupid question.....is the rug flying!? Cause its shadow tells me it's flying!! >.<

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No Gods but Yourself!! >.<

now that you mention it...

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oops, it'll be the displacement map on it, should've noticed that. When i go back to this render i'll have a looksee.

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