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-Norbertle
Junior Member

3 years ago

Hey, ok before i ask the question. ive been working with varouis 3d programs over the years like animation master mostly. and ive recently started using 3d max. So im not a complete beginner at this stuff. But i am still trying to learn(im more of a movie effects artist if anything). Now on to the real thing ive been trying to rig This model i found for free of the web. I want to know A couple of things.

1. Whats the best way i should rig him.( i will be using Mocap for most of his stuff)
2.Any good tutorial on how to make his cloths animate like cloths and stay on him.
3.any thing else you think that would help him feel a bit more real.

Ps . Im using this model for some short films and stuff, that i will not be using for anything else except for the fact of learning.

Thank you guys so much im really glad to be apart of this community
Best Regards,
Brent

+isaac
Moderator

3 years ago

Are the clothes independent of the body?
For the face, learn morph targets.
If you're going to use motion capture learn the curve editor like the back of your hand.

-Norbertle
Junior Member

3 years ago

Yes the cloths are independent from the body. Thank you So much i will look more into Morph targets and curve editor. Any tutorials you recommend

+isaac
Moderator

3 years ago

With the cloths separate you can use something called reactor. You can also use something called "cloth" in the modifier stack.

-Norbertle
Junior Member

3 years ago

Thank you ill try it out

-Tyson
Senior Member

3 years ago

If you are going to use mocap files the fastest way to rig him would be with character studio. but bear in mind that character studio sucks arse for hand animation.
For doing fabric simulations the most effect way I've found is using max cloth and setting up groups so that only the extremities get simulated. for example if you had a tshirt you would sim it relaxing onto the character then use skin wrap to make it follow the characters skin. then set up a group in the cloth that selects the main areas of the t-shirt fading out to the extremities. make it a preserve node that will keep the motion from the underlying modifier and simulate cloth everywhere else. This way works well but is still alot of work for every shot. sometimes a simple flex modifier will do for a stylised cloth effect.

+isaac
Moderator

3 years ago

And as far as bones go...
If you're hard core, blast thew the manual for character studio. (the biped thing)

-Norbertle
Junior Member

3 years ago

Thank you guys for the amazing tips. i will try those right away.

-Norbertle
Junior Member

3 years ago

This seems like it would work alot better for animation. what do you guys think.[Link to usa.autodesk.com]

-Tyson
Senior Member

3 years ago

Ive never used motion builder but I've heard its really awesome. especially for studios that need a solid animation pipeline where they can swap and re-use animation resources for multiple episodes, projects, characters, etc..

+Steve Martin
Moderator

3 years ago

Yeh, I've heard it's good. Plus it's an autodesk product (like everything these days) so hopefully it would be fairly compatible with max and maya etc.

[Link to www.3dprevis.com]
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-Norbertle
Junior Member

3 years ago

ok guys, ive now wasted at least 10+ hours trying to rig this model of link. Here is a link to the file for if anyone else wants to see what i did wrong on rigging it and so on. If you could fix it to that would be awsome. Also i dont care if you guys completly get rid of the bi-ped bones and rig it with your own bone system.

[Link to www.file-upload.net]

+isaac
Moderator

3 years ago

I wish we had a "teach a man to fish" policy in these help threads...

-musashiroth
Member

3 years ago

Awsome job on the rigg!

Few things..

Right hand has a loose vertex in a finger that is not parented to anything.

Left hand same thing but in the fore arm close to the elbow.. i think its a glove vertex.

Left leg has the cloth not deforming with the rigg, yet the right one is.. I dont know if you're going to use cloth deformation or not.

Other than that.. I think you're good to go! Great job!

MuS@shiROth

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-oxygen454
Junior Member

3 years ago

That looks great! Im guessing your cloth is not attached to the biped yet? Cold be because I dont have all the skins you have.. I had a error saying the skins were missing. Where did you get these from? I like the detail!

~3ds Max 9~

-Norbertle
Junior Member

3 years ago

if you guys want the whoe package here is were i downloaded it from [Link to thelastboss.com]

also why cant i move al lthe things at once. like whe ni try to scale it or so on to put it in a photo every thing gets off and so onn

-oxygen454
Junior Member

3 years ago

What all are your trying to move? The clothing and biped? You might have to use unfreeze all with the right click, then ctrl a for select all and then move?

~3ds Max 9~

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