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-jovanie_
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jovanie_

3 years ago
Anyone knows what set-up or configuration to do.. to have a clear or high quality render animation on Max?


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+isaac
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isaac

3 years ago
Is that a trick question? Or are you referring to resolution?

-jovanie_
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jovanie_

3 years ago
it isnt.. smile.gif

some sort of a like a resoluton. that can make an animated scene looks real not like too noisy
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3 years ago
Please use more descriptive thread titles in future please. "What" tells us nothing about the problem you are having.
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-jovanie_
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jovanie_

3 years ago
ohh ok sorry..
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-Altopais
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Altopais

3 years ago
the bigger resolution better quality, smaller resolution, worse quality, tradeoff is, bigger resoulultion takes longer to render, so some kind of balance is needed
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-jovanie_
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jovanie_

3 years ago
its ok to have longer render just to have a better quality of animation.. thx.. always trying to balance the animation but still I still can't fix it.. but neway thx :0 really appreciate u guys here for considering me on things
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-Altopais
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Altopais

3 years ago
you should also consider where do you want your animation to be played on, if you plan to upload it to web then there's no point in higher quality and resolution because you will have to convert it to reduce it's size and maybe change format (i'm no expert in web graphics nor video). If you plan for it to be viewed on tv than you should google some standard tv and hd tv resolutions, frame rates and so on, and on the other hand if you plan to play it on your pc, than go crazy with the quality if you can sacrifice waiting for render
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-jovanie_
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jovanie_

3 years ago
I'm planning to air it on T.V. but im afraid to have noisy animation bcoz I already tried rendering on higher resolution ... after I import it to adobe premiere(software for editing video) it becomes noisy... maybe its bcoz it was imported to another software I guess..
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-Altopais
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Altopais

3 years ago
Always render your animation as a sequence, in targa format if you plan on doing some post work.
and no, importing your animation into adobe has nothing to do with bad quality and noise. Try to consider this, lets say your monitor resolution is 1600x1200 and you render out a 800x640 animation, if you strech that animation to be 200% of its size it will loose on quality big time, become pixelated and noisy, if you plan on air it on tv than 800x640 or 1024x768 should be enough, and keep in mid your frame rate, pal or ntsc.
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-jovanie_
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jovanie_

3 years ago
erhm as far as I know 1 sec = 30 frames in max dunno bout the others... if im gonna import a .tga on premiere it will set each .tga file to 5 secs each. XD.gif..

that's I'm gonna figure out if this is the case.. but still thx.. im gonna try to figure it out..

neway.. I remember and now I forgot how to apply a set of .tga files on material editor??
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-Altopais
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Altopais

3 years ago
PAL standard has 24 fps and NTSC has 30 fps, depends on wich standard does your country use, in croatia it's PAL.
You mean importing a tga image sequence? if so, then select bitman from material editor and when choosing your image (in your case a sequance) select a first image in seq and and click that little box on browser windows where it says Sequence, sorry, i would provide a screen shoot, but i'm waitng for a render to complete. if you cant find it, look in max's helo files, just search sequence importing or something similar
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-jovanie_
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jovanie_

3 years ago
ok... look forward on screen shot of urs hehe
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-Altopais
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Altopais

3 years ago
here it is haha, for sequence importing, just check that red squared thingy

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-jovanie_
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jovanie_

3 years ago
once u enable the sequence is it automatic that all other files will follow?

is it auto play? or I have to set it up?
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-Altopais
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Altopais

3 years ago
Yeah, when you enable seq all your images in that seq will be loaded.
Depends, if your seq is 100 frames long and for example, you set it up to be your backdround, you'll have to set your animation leinght to 100 frames too, if you don't want the background seq to loop and repeat it's self. It's played as you move your time slider in max.
The secret of creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
-Albert Einstein

-jovanie_
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jovanie_

3 years ago
erhm heres a sample of .tga file imported and compiled... thx to you guys...

i have tried imported at max putting it on plane.. but too blurry and and noisy... smile.gif

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-The Real Matt
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The Real Matt

3 years ago
Pal is 25Fps, film is 24 FPS
and it's a story that might bore you, but you don't have to listen, because I always knew it was going to be like that.

-Altopais
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Altopais

3 years ago
my mistake, thanks for correction smile.gif
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-jovanie_
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jovanie_

3 years ago
we use NTSC 29.97fps
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-cdballew
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cdballew

3 years ago
I nominate this for the drunken thread award. grin.gif
Chris

+isaac
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isaac

3 years ago
That would be titled, "eh?"

-cdballew
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cdballew

3 years ago
No!.. It would be titled "did your mom say something about me,...never mind, ...I'll talk to you tomorrow?".........smile.gif

I'm going to suggest using the search function. This is not a Google search, it searches THIS site for questions that have been brought up before.



Chris

+Jamie
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Jamie

3 years ago
And im going to suggest that also because not only does it have awesome results it also pays us .. so please use it people. We are poor!!
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Steve Martin

3 years ago
Could we set up some sort of program that automatically searches random terms constantly in order to rake in the cash?
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+VarnishedOtter
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VarnishedOtter

3 years ago
No, because google know where we live.
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+Jamie
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3 years ago
And that my friend is called a bot and Google would sue the crap out of us.
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-cdballew
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cdballew

3 years ago
I use it every time I have a question. It's not as easy as creating a new thread to ask, but it is sometimes faster. There have been a bunch of problems solved on this site.

My apologies to jovanie_, I didn't realize I sounded like an ass.


Chris

-jovanie_
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jovanie_

3 years ago
it ok sir... I also admit my fault...
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-cdballew
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cdballew

3 years ago
grin.gif..no worries.
Chris

-jovanie_
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jovanie_

3 years ago
ok thx... imma arrange the shortcuts first : cheers :
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-Tyson
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Tyson

3 years ago
do you mean a good codec for exporting an animation too so there isnt too much compression?.

really dude. try and figure out what it is your trying to ask before posting. its kind of ridiculous trying to guess what you mean before we can even attempt to help.

If your question is the above compression question the answer is to try different ones with different settings till you get a good compromise on image quality and file size. but always render your max scene out as a tga sequence so you can try different things quickly and non destructively.

-jovanie_
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jovanie_

3 years ago
targa = many pics... frown.gif

what I mean sir.. rendering an animation having clean and no noise at all..

coz everytime I render it always look like blurry.. and when I import it to Adobe Premiere it looks worst..
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+Steve Martin
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Steve Martin

3 years ago
Don't worry about what it looks like in premiere, it always looks pixelated when you're editing. Try exporting to a movie and see if it looks any better.
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-jovanie_
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jovanie_

3 years ago
ohh ok.. i will try... i think i looks just fine on premiere.. just its just not look good on youtube...
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-Tyson
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Tyson

3 years ago
Jovanie nothing looks good on youtube, and its got nothing to do with rendering in max or premier. Although I think if you upload it at a high enough res and bit rate you can get the "view in high quality" setting.

According to youtube.

600kbs bitrate
at least 480X360 resolution
divx or xvid codec.

Didnt you say you were doing something to view on a TV? I'm thoroughly confused.

-Altopais
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Altopais

3 years ago
From what i can make out from your questions, you ask about max render and not post video editing. If so, that's rather huge question, probably the easiest way to answer it is that you try to setup your render like you are doing for still image, and your render setup will wary, depends what kind of a scene you are trying to render out, and render out a seq only in lower resolution, makes no sense to render it in 2kx1k resolution, 640x 480 or 800x600 would be more than enough, or else your render will take to long. I really don't know what to say, try to formulate your question a bit.

The secret of creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
-Albert Einstein

-jovanie_
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jovanie_

3 years ago
ohh sorry about my questions.. can't really speak it out clearly in english..

im always rendering the max animation 640x480 720x480.. all of my render suxs XD.gif... maybe i try to figure and missed up the resolution to find out
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Jovanie_
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-Tyson
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Tyson

3 years ago
Firstly rendering to sequences is the only way to go. don't worry about having many images. just create a folder for the sequence and when you import you check the box that says "image sequence" premier will treat it like a single video file. without compression.

secondly there are millions of reasons why you might be getting noise. noise usually refers to grainyness from something like low GI quality settings or something like that. If you are getting flickering from a vray render it can be a whole other lot of settings to fix. normally max scanline renders wont get noisy unless you have low quality shadows or something but as Altopais says you need to get a still image looking right before you worry about rendering out an animation. If your images look crap as stills you're probably gonna want to do some more work on the scene right?

-jovanie_
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jovanie_

3 years ago
ohh ok... thx
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